Epa

[akitainu]

Originalmente inviato da darten

Io direi che sei su una strada giusta !
le variazioni di sagoma in pianta che rientrano in 2 centimetri sono tollerate dal regolamento
Per quanto concerne il profilo alare è una questione di preferenze personali, io ad esempio utilizzo quasi esclusivamente il Ritz-2-30-10 ma solo perchè mi ritrovo una dima ben fatta ed ha delle doti di volo che sono compatibili con il mio modo di pilotare !
Penso però che profili classici dal clark y al clark X o similari vadano certamente bene !
Importante è ricordare che il bordo d'attacco non deve avere niente che lo irrigidisca tranne una mano di vernice o vinavil diluito che viene tollerata !
In pratica a parte i longheroni affogati nell'ala o nella fusoliera e non affioranti, il modello non deve essere rivestito

Quello del peppe mi sembra abbia del nastro sul bordo di attacco...

[darten]

Ho trovato la trasposizione inglese delle regole EPA di quest'anno
anche loro limitano rivestimenti e rinforzi sul bordo d'attacco !
hanno introdotto il peso max e dei bonus per biplani e multimotori

ecco quello che ho trovato :



For thoose interested in flying combat - here is my translation of ESA rules.
(ESA - Electric Simple AirCombat)

1. Model
Must be semiscale of real plane in production in years 1935-1945.In case there was a prototype there had to be minimum 50 of them made.
Width - 700 - 860 mm for single motor
760 - 1000mm for multi motor
Other sizes in scale +/- 30mm

Model can be made of all kind of foams (EPP,polistyren,styrodur,depron)

You can't use any carbon,glass other reinforcement on leading edges - must be clear.


All model must be made of soft materials.


2. Motor
Any motor lighter than 55g (without spinner, proppeler, mount, cables)


3. Lipo
For single motor:
3s - 1350mAh - max
2S - 1800mAh - max
For multimotor:
3S - 2500mah
Using Ni-CD and NiMh is allowed

4. Propellers
Any to suit motor

5. Model weight
Single motor - min 200g - max 380
Multi motor max 450g

6. Extra points for
max. + 75 points for multi motor
max. + 75 points for biplane


7. Streamer
Length 10m width 10mm from crepe paper.

8.Flying field - depends of space
9. Flying time:
To be set before 1st. flight between 5 and 7 min


10. Changing plane.
Contestant can't change plane during the battle, he can do it only between battles.
Any amount of planes is allowed.
Changin battery is not allowed durring a battle.
During battle colecting of plane is allowed from flying field only after referee's agree, and after informing other pilots.

11. Scoring

* avoiding battle : - 50 p (points)
* Crossing safety lane: - 150 p - (after 2 crossing - disqualification)
* Streamer protection : + 50 p
* Collision : 0 p
* Cut : + 100 p
* Every 3 sec of flying : +1 p
* multimotor : +75 p
* Biplane : + 75 p
* Maximum extra points: max +75 p
Highest score - wins.
Usually there is 3 rounds.
Remember - safety first !!!
There are possible combinations of above - the main point is to have fun - so there can be everybody against everybody else, team plaing, protection of VIP (very important plane ) target bombing, or if you have suicaidal tendencies - kamikaze
This is my translation just to give you an idea whats going on with ESA.
It is bit different to contact combat.

Have fun

[akitainu]

e la carta vetro?

nemmeno quella.... sembra di capire. e tagliano le strisce aces...

[Peppe46]

Originalmente inviato da darten

Ho trovato la trasposizione inglese delle regole EPA di quest'anno
anche loro limitano rivestimenti e rinforzi sul bordo d'attacco !
hanno introdotto il peso max e dei bonus per biplani e multimotori

ecco quello che ho trovato :



For thoose interested in flying combat - here is my translation of ESA rules.
(ESA - Electric Simple AirCombat)

1. Model
Must be semiscale of real plane in production in years 1935-1945.In case there was a prototype there had to be minimum 50 of them made.
Width - 700 - 860 mm for single motor
760 - 1000mm for multi motor
Other sizes in scale +/- 30mm

Model can be made of all kind of foams (EPP,polistyren,styrodur,depron)

You can't use any carbon,glass other reinforcement on leading edges - must be clear.


All model must be made of soft materials.


2. Motor
Any motor lighter than 55g (without spinner, proppeler, mount, cables)


3. Lipo
For single motor:
3s - 1350mAh - max
2S - 1800mAh - max
For multimotor:
3S - 2500mah
Using Ni-CD and NiMh is allowed

4. Propellers
Any to suit motor

5. Model weight
Single motor - min 200g - max 380
Multi motor max 450g

6. Extra points for
max. + 75 points for multi motor
max. + 75 points for biplane


7. Streamer
Length 10m width 10mm from crepe paper.

8.Flying field - depends of space
9. Flying time:
To be set before 1st. flight between 5 and 7 min


10. Changing plane.
Contestant can't change plane during the battle, he can do it only between battles.
Any amount of planes is allowed.
Changin battery is not allowed durring a battle.
During battle colecting of plane is allowed from flying field only after referee's agree, and after informing other pilots.

11. Scoring

* avoiding battle : - 50 p (points)
* Crossing safety lane: - 150 p - (after 2 crossing - disqualification)
* Streamer protection : + 50 p
* Collision : 0 p
* Cut : + 100 p
* Every 3 sec of flying : +1 p
* multimotor : +75 p
* Biplane : + 75 p
* Maximum extra points: max +75 p
Highest score - wins.
Usually there is 3 rounds.
Remember - safety first !!!
There are possible combinations of above - the main point is to have fun - so there can be everybody against everybody else, team plaing, protection of VIP (very important plane ) target bombing, or if you have suicaidal tendencies - kamikaze
This is my translation just to give you an idea whats going on with ESA.
It is bit different to contact combat.

Have fun

Boni... questo sopra non è il regolamento EPA !

Sul BE è permesso nastro fibrato.
Sono vietati rinforzi rigidi.
Ammessi longheroncini in carbonio.

[Swoose]

Originalmente inviato da darten

Ho trovato la trasposizione inglese delle regole EPA di quest'anno
anche loro limitano rivestimenti e rinforzi sul bordo d'attacco !
hanno introdotto il peso max e dei bonus per biplani e multimotori

ecco quello che ho trovato :



For thoose interested in flying combat - here is my translation of ESA rules.
(ESA - Electric Simple AirCombat)

1. Model
Must be semiscale of real plane in production in years 1935-1945.In case there was a prototype there had to be minimum 50 of them made.
Width - 700 - 860 mm for single motor
760 - 1000mm for multi motor
Other sizes in scale +/- 30mm

Model can be made of all kind of foams (EPP,polistyren,styrodur,depron)

You can't use any carbon,glass other reinforcement on leading edges - must be clear.


All model must be made of soft materials.


2. Motor
Any motor lighter than 55g (without spinner, proppeler, mount, cables)


3. Lipo
For single motor:
3s - 1350mAh - max
2S - 1800mAh - max
For multimotor:
3S - 2500mah
Using Ni-CD and NiMh is allowed

4. Propellers
Any to suit motor

5. Model weight
Single motor - min 200g - max 380
Multi motor max 450g

6. Extra points for
max. + 75 points for multi motor
max. + 75 points for biplane


7. Streamer
Length 10m width 10mm from crepe paper.

8.Flying field - depends of space
9. Flying time:
To be set before 1st. flight between 5 and 7 min


10. Changing plane.
Contestant can't change plane during the battle, he can do it only between battles.
Any amount of planes is allowed.
Changin battery is not allowed durring a battle.
During battle colecting of plane is allowed from flying field only after referee's agree, and after informing other pilots.

11. Scoring

* avoiding battle : - 50 p (points)
* Crossing safety lane: - 150 p - (after 2 crossing - disqualification)
* Streamer protection : + 50 p
* Collision : 0 p
* Cut : + 100 p
* Every 3 sec of flying : +1 p
* multimotor : +75 p
* Biplane : + 75 p
* Maximum extra points: max +75 p
Highest score - wins.
Usually there is 3 rounds.
Remember - safety first !!!
There are possible combinations of above - the main point is to have fun - so there can be everybody against everybody else, team plaing, protection of VIP (very important plane ) target bombing, or if you have suicaidal tendencies - kamikaze
This is my translation just to give you an idea whats going on with ESA.
It is bit different to contact combat.

Have fun

Molto simili a parte il peso dei motori e dei modelli..

Non sono queste le regole EPA? (sono datate 2007)

ciao cla




3. Equipment

3.1. Model

The model must be a scale or semi scale A/C fighter built between 1935 and 1945.
The model dimensions are determined as follow:

· Wingspan for single engine model max 850 mm
· Wingspan for double engine model max. 1000 mm
· Minimum wingspan for model is 800 mm

Recalculations of all other model dimensions are needful to be in the corresponding scale to the chosen model wingspan scale. Max. 2 cm difference of these other dimensions comparing with the corresponding wingspan scale will be tolerated.

It is not mandatory having the three-dimensional fuselage, it is allow having “flatling” fuselage.
Its length is measured from the rear line to frontline of the fuselage, or to propeller (if the propeller exists).

No protruding devices may exist on the front leading edge of the wing, stabilizer and fin. It means, there are not allowed any parts of model in front of the leadings edges of the wing and tail planes of model.

Underlay of the leading edge of the wing and tail planes are not permitted.
Lading edges covering by glass or textile slips will be tolerated. Application of the stream-cutting sandpaper strips is allowed.
Model should be build from EPP or similar mat. It is not allowed to coat surface of model or fill surface with putty

Model must look like original A/C including of camouflage, marking, emblems and so on. It is mandatory for pilots (competitors) support the visual aspects of model with the pictures or photographs of the A/C if there is some unclearness in the model appearance. Pilot (competitor) could not be a builder of the model.

3.2. Engines
It is possible using the AC or DC electro engines only.

3.3. Accumulator specification
LiPol (LiOn, LiFe) accumulator in maximum 3 cells, or NiCd / NiMh accumulator in maximum 9
cells are allowed.

3.4. Accumulator Capacity Limitations

For AC engine
Single engine model:

LiPol ( LiOn, LiFe) double cell max. 1800mAh, for three cells max 1350mAh;
Up to 7 cells NiCd/NiMh 1800mAh, above 7 cells NiCd/NiMh 1350mAh

Double engines model:
Max. 2500mAh

Pro DC motor
Single engine model:

Up to 7 cells NiCd/NiMh 2100mAh, bove 7 cells NiCd/NiMh 1500mAh
LiPol ( LiOn, LiFe) double cell max 2100mAh, for three cells max 1500mAh;

Double engines model:
Max. 3000mAh

[darten]

Si !
non si tratta del regolamento EPA ma della trasposizione 2011 del regolamento che viene adottato in inghilterra!
Tanto è vero che si chiama regolamento ESA.

[darten]

A questo punto bisognerebbe sapere e decidere se il regolamento EPA vigente a cui riferirsi è quello richiamato da Swoose del 2007 (europa middle est) o sono altre cui magari noi non siamo ancora arrivati !

[Franz DAG]

Originalmente inviato da akitainu

e la carta vetro?

nemmeno quella.... sembra di capire. e tagliano le strisce aces...

Nel regolamento ESA usano la carta crespa, che è molto più fragile delle nostre tovaglie....

[Lo Scuro]

grazie dei consigli darten, ho iniziato a preparare i pezzi, man mano che produco vi sottopongo i miei dubbi

altra curiosità (ma ne avrei mille da soddisfare ) ma l'ogiva è ammessa?

[akitainu]

Vi sono arrivati i motori da 1000 e eliche da 9/5 ?